fold to 3bet detailed stats

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fold to 3bet detailed stats

Postby 1nsight » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:25 am

Can you add the hud stats to have more detailed info on fold to 3bet stats?
For ex/

fold to 3b utg when mp 3bets
fold to 3b utg when co 3bets
and so on for all positions? if this is already possible can you please let me know how? as far as i can tell right now all i can do is select fold to 3bet and then assign a position in properties but that wont show me vs a specific position 3bet.

thanks
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Re: fold to 3bet detailed stats

Postby kraada » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:42 am

These weren't added to the defaults because we do not believe that the sample sizes will produce meaningful results for the vast majority of players.

That said, you can of course build these stats with the PT4 custom statistics options.

The position of the 3bettor can be referenced as:

substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1)::int

So for example when the CO 3bet substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1)::int = 1

You can refer to the player's own position using cash_hand_player_statistics.position.

Position 9 is always the SB, 8 is always the BB, 0 is the button 1 is the CO and it adds up going around the table from there.

You may also want to take a look at some of the stats with "vs" in the name - they show you how to construct things like "EP" and "MP". Click Configure --> Statistics, and in the Players Columns section search for vs to see all of the relevant columns - searching for vs on the Stats side will show you how they are used.

One last note - you also want to add char_length(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p) >= 3 to these columns just to be sure that the hand was 3bet.

So a sample column might look like this, assuming you're talking about 6max (which has utg being position 3).

cnt_p_utg_action_fold_vs_co_3bet:

sum(if[char_length(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p) >= 3 and substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1)::int = 1 and cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 3 and cash_hand_player_statistics.enum_p_3bet_action = 'F', 1, 0])

And you'd need an opportunity column which would be like:

cnt_p_utg_vs_co_3bet_opp:
sum(if[char_length(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p) >= 3 and substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1)::int = 1 and cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 3 and cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet_def_opp, 1, 0])

With this information you should be able to build all of the combinations you're looking for. Good luck!
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Re: fold to 3bet detailed stats

Postby 1nsight » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:27 am

thanks for the response but this is far too complicated :?
i have no idea how to build custom stats even after your reply

i dont see why it wouldnt be default... you dont need many hands to see a pattern of where ppl like to call/fold 3bets vs certain positions
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Re: fold to 3bet detailed stats

Postby kraada » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:44 am

You get data far too slowly in these situations - we did tests on our end to determine this. If I get a chance I'll build these and post them here and in the warehouse for you, but with the PT4 commercial release coming next week I can't guarantee how fast I'll be able to build them.
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Re: fold to 3bet detailed stats

Postby nonamepo » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:09 pm

my 3bet popup from HM1:

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wanna see this detailed stats in pt4 :roll: :D
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Re: fold to 3bet detailed stats

Postby kraada » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:46 pm

As I said, I'll look into building these for you - they definitely can be done, and once they are I'll post those stats here for you.
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