Lucky Bell curve

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Lucky Bell curve

Postby Band1t » Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:57 am

Now contains only flush, set and stright information. I would like to see fullhouse there also?
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby kingrax » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:29 am

I agree +1
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby PJs Ronin » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:36 pm

I'd be liking this.

+1
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby kraada » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:40 am

Just to make sure we're all on the same page:

This request would be for one dot like the others that combines flopping, turning or rivering full houses no matter what hole cards you start with, correct?
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby PJs Ronin » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:27 pm

kraada wrote:Just to make sure we're all on the same page:

This request would be for one dot like the others that combines flopping, turning or rivering full houses no matter what hole cards you start with, correct?

If that's how the other plots are based, then yes. Imo, the criteria for the full house plot should be exactly the same as for str8, flushie, etc.
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby StevenM » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:06 pm

Is there any other application that measures the frequency of when a hand improves to a full house? I spoke with a few PLO players today, each of them said they did not think a luck curve for improving to a full house matters to them, if this is something you really want to see then you guys need to be very convincing because 3 guys saying +1 doesn't help sway us in either direction. The more evidence you can provide that shows the value for including full houses in the luck bell curve, the more likely that we will consider this request. Good luck gentlemen ;-)
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby PJs Ronin » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:07 pm

Well, a boat beats a set... so if sets get a place on the graph why not boats.

(how's my logic holding up?)
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby m4ximu5 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:18 am

I´m right - the Bell Curve does not contain the draws of opponents against whom I have played?
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby WhiteRider » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:44 am

The bell curve is for the luck of the current active player - if you change the active player then their luck will be shown instead, but since we don't know the hole cards of your opponents unless they go to showdown this would almost certainly give biased results (as they'll more often go to showdown when they make their hand than when they don't).
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Re: Lucky Bell curve

Postby TrustySam » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:11 pm

StevenM wrote:Is there any other application that measures the frequency of when a hand improves to a full house? I spoke with a few PLO players today, each of them said they did not think a luck curve for improving to a full house matters to them, if this is something you really want to see then you guys need to be very convincing because 3 guys saying +1 doesn't help sway us in either direction. The more evidence you can provide that shows the value for including full houses in the luck bell curve, the more likely that we will consider this request. Good luck gentlemen ;-)


Did you mean to say that you could see the benefits of having the additional feature, but that on the other hand, a luck 'o meter for a full house might not be as meaningful since it's a lot less common for somebody to knowingly stay in a pot with a set or 2pr when they're behind with the hope of hitting a full house, and that therefore for the amount of time that would need to be rerouted to implementing this feature, there's other more useful features that the developers could be working on, such as debugging, etc?

I'm sure this wasn't intended, but this response almost makes it sound like the opinions of the 3 people YOU talked to are more important than the three people who posted on in this thread to say they thought it'd be a cool addition. Because that was the sort of response you all gave me when I made a pretty clear and convincing case for why the auto-lock feature on the HUD should be made a custom feature instead, and that STILL wasn't enough for you guys for like two extra months.

That being said, I personally see more problems with implementing the full house luck o meter as I outlined above, although I do like the idea of having one - isn't more better? I just noticed the process breaking down a little and wish somebody had jumped in to mediate when I was in the same situation. You know, like maybe it might help keep things more collaborative if the PT team tried to explain your position, or else elaborate on what those three PLO players had to say so that people can better understand where you guys are coming from?

Hope this helps - it's my intent to keep things productive ...
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