GG now banning PT4 for good?

[icho90]

https://ggpoker.com/blog/new-security-m ... ign=Social

Any infos from PT4 on this?

Mainly this part:

Prohibited tools include, but are not limited to:
Jurojin
PokerTracker 4
Hand2Note
Holdem Manager 3
StarsCaption
DriveHUD 2
Intuitive Tables
Lobbyze
Equilab
AutoHotkey
Other third-party poker software and automation tools
Please fully close these applications before launching GGPoker.

Cheers

[dj1337]

think we need to fight this, this isnt right it doesnt even work on ggpoker. Can we get some help from the pt4 developers to talk to gg about this?

[APerfect10]

A recent security incident involving completely unrelated third-party poker software allowed attackers to spy on players who had installed compromised applications. You can read more about the incident in this PokerNews article.

This was a serious security breach, and we fully understand the need for poker sites to strengthen their security.

At Max Value Software, protecting our customers has always been one of our highest priorities. We follow established industry security practices throughout PokerTracker's development, build, and release processes, and continually work to maintain the security and integrity of our software.

As a general reminder:

1. Only download PokerTracker from our official website.
2. Only install software from reputable companies you know and trust.

GGPoker's Response

We fully support stronger security measures, but GGPoker's response goes far beyond what we believe is reasonable.

GGPoker has chosen a heavy-handed and draconian policy of indiscriminately banning third-party poker software, without distinguishing between legitimate applications and those that may pose a security threat.

GGPoker does not provide real-time hand histories and prohibits third-party HUDs. PokerTracker has always respected these restrictions. Our software does not interact with the GGPoker client, its tables, or gameplay in any way.

Despite this, GGPoker now prohibits players from running PokerTracker alongside their client, even though PokerTracker has never interfered with their software or violated their gameplay rules.


What Is No Longer Allowed

PokerTracker cannot be running at the same time as the GGPoker client. You must close PokerTracker before launching GGPoker.


What Is Still Allowed

You can continue downloading your GGPoker hand histories after your sessions and importing them into PokerTracker for post-game analysis, as you have always done.

In PokerTracker, navigate to Play Poker → Get Hands From Disk.


What Can We Do About This?

think we need to fight this, this isnt right it doesnt even work on ggpoker. Can we get some help from the pt4 developers to talk to gg about this?

Unfortunately, our options are limited.

GGPoker can establish restrictions on what software it allows to run alongside its client. That doesn't mean we have to agree with their decision, and we certainly don't.

Rather than banning everything outright, I'd like to see GGPoker work with reputable software developers to find a reasonable solution that protects players without unnecessarily restricting legitimate software.

Ultimately, the most effective response is for players to voice their displeasure directly to GGPoker and vote with their poker traffic.

Best regards,

Derek Charles, Managing Partner
Max Value Software

[AlexClaude]

Intuitive Tables response: Our next update will fully remove GGPoker support from IntuitiveTables, and we'll be retiring older versions that still support it. IntuitiveTables will continue to work with all other poker clients we support. Once the update is out and IntuitiveTables no longer interacts with GGPoker at all, we'll be asking GGPoker to allow IntuitiveTables to stay open while you play on other sites, even with GGPoker running.

Couldn’t you guys try something like this? I know everyones in a predicament right now but, GGpoker is the biggest site and I feel like customers and software developers need to reach out to GG and get this solved, this isn’t right.

Thanks.

[ramabranch]

GGPoker can establish restrictions on what software it allows to run alongside its client. That doesn't mean we have to agree with their decision, and we certainly don't.

Rather than banning everything outright, I'd like to see GGPoker work with reputable software developers to find a reasonable solution that protects players without unnecessarily restricting legitimate software.

Ultimately, the most effective response is for players to voice their displeasure directly to GGPoker and vote with their poker traffic.

Best regards,

Derek Charles, Managing Partner
Max Value Software

Do you guys forsee any chance of working something up with GG management? As an MTT player that multi-lobbies this ban affects me deeply

[dj1337]

GGPoker can establish restrictions on what software it allows to run alongside its client. That doesn't mean we have to agree with their decision, and we certainly don't.

Rather than banning everything outright, I'd like to see GGPoker work with reputable software developers to find a reasonable solution that protects players without unnecessarily restricting legitimate software.

Ultimately, the most effective response is for players to voice their displeasure directly to GGPoker and vote with their poker traffic.

Best regards,

Derek Charles, Managing Partner
Max Value Software

Do you guys forsee any chance of working something up with GG management? As an MTT player that multi-lobbies this ban affects me deeply

This please!!!. But it already doesn't interact with gg....but please pt4 management try something to help us players.

[APerfect10]

This please!!!. But it already doesn't interact with gg....but please pt4 management try something to help us players.

Right! GGPoker is very difficult to reach and unlike most poker sites/networks, we do not have any good contacts on their side since we only import their written hand histories and nothing else.

We will continue trying to reach out to them and try to have a meaningful discussion. If anyone has a good direct contact at GGPoker, please share that information with us and we will reach out to them directly.

Best regards,

Derek

[Aspie66]

But we've never been able to use the PT4 HUD on GGpoker, we've always had to use their own crappy thing. All we could do was manually import hand histories, and they can't stop you doing that

[dj1337]

This please!!!. But it already doesn't interact with gg....but please pt4 management try something to help us players.

Right! GGPoker is very difficult to reach and unlike most poker sites/networks, we do not have any good contacts on their side since we only import their written hand histories and nothing else.

We will continue trying to reach out to them and try to have a meaningful discussion. If anyone has a good direct contact at GGPoker, please share that information with us and we will reach out to them directly.

Best regards,

Derek

they just posted something on their twitter for 3rd party app developers to email them link/copy of their program with no gg interaction and they may approve it.

[icho90]

Update Post on Twitter:

https://x.com/GGPoker/status/2111830439597916427