Definition of Probe bet?

[jscobie]

Hi,

How does pockertracker define a probe bet? Is it when someone is not the PFR and does not donk?

Thanks in advance

[kraada]

A probe bet is a bet out of position after the player who could have made a continuation bet on the prior street did not make that continuation bet.

So for example:

Player X raises preflop on the button, Player Y calls in the BB. Y checks, X checks. Y bets the turn. That's a probe bet because on the street before (the flop) X could have continuation bet (by virtue of the PFR) but did not do so.

[COKE_MAN]

Is there an equivalent to this when positions are reversed? For example, preflop UTG raises, BTN calls. UTG checks flop, BTN bets.

[kraada]

That's a Flop Float bet.

[COKE_MAN]

Flop float bet. Got it.

Is there a existing stat for the same scenario I described EXCEPT, btn checks flop, UTG checks turn and then BTN bets? Or by that time has the preflop raiser given up initiative and so that is just a regular turn bet?

[WhiteRider]

That's just a regular bet on the turn, although you could build a custom stat for it if you're interested in identifying that specific situation?

[Harnas31]

A probe bet is a bet out of position after the player who could have made a continuation bet on the prior street did not make that continuation bet.

So for example:

Player X raises preflop on the button, Player Y calls in the BB. Y checks, X checks. Y bets the turn. That's a probe bet because on the street before (the flop) X could have continuation bet (by virtue of the PFR) but did not do so.

ok, but
What about something like float out of position [oop] ?

If x cbet , Y check/call and on turn Y bet --- is it float oop or donk ?

When floating oop happens ?

[kraada]

If the action went like this:

Preflop X raised from the button, Y called from a blind. Y checked the flop and X cbet. Y called the cbet. Y bet the turn.

That is a Turn Donk from Y.

You cannot make a float bet out of position, only a donk or a probe.

[NimhOfJoy]

If the action went like this:

Preflop X raised from the button, Y called from a blind. Y checked the flop and X cbet. Y called the cbet. Y bet the turn.

That is a Turn Donk from Y.

You cannot make a float bet out of position, only a donk or a probe.

What about Y and X both ch turn and Y bets river? What's that called? Is that a river probe?

[NimhOfJoy]

Flop float bet. Got it.

Is there a existing stat for the same scenario I described EXCEPT, btn checks flop, UTG checks turn and then BTN bets? Or by that time has the preflop raiser given up initiative and so that is just a regular turn bet?

I would just point out that this is generally referred to as a delayed cbet.